So 1.4mil Malaysians are crooks...
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YOURSAY 'A typical myopic comment from an Umnoputra. Some even go to the extent of saying there is no corruption in Malaysia.'
Deputy minister: Only 5pct of M'sians involved in graft
Louis: Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Razali Ibrahim, you are another politician who knows not what you are talking.
Malaysia has a population of around 28 million, so when you say five percent of the population is involved in corruption, it works out to be about 1.4 million people.
Assuming a modest sum of RM1,000 is paid per bribe, the total sum of money that goes into corruption is RM1.5 billion. If only the government can curb the scourge of corruption, that amount of money that could be saved and spare the poor people from paying more for petrol.
Gggg: That's correct, Razali Ibrahim. Only those five percent that you say are corrupt are in positions to demand bribes. That's the average percentage of top management, enforcers and politicians - taken together.
Legit: How do you arrive at this percentage, Mr Deputy Minister? Is corruption legal in Malaysia or otherwise? Do you keep a record of those people who are corrupt? Is it an official figure or just plucked from the air?
Government ministers have to be careful in giving out these numbers. Unless they can substantiate them with facts, they are no different from the man in the street - just talking without substance.
Bersih 4.0 Malaysian: Only five percent Malaysians involved in corruption? That works out to 1.4 million Malaysians, implying all government servants are corrupt and the balance goes to Umno.
Perception or no perception, please explain how a certain ‘unemployed' Umno-linked individual can own a house costing more than RM7 million?
Please explain what action has been taken on a former PM for the billions he allegedly has and also Sarawak CM Taib Mahmud, who has equally that amount of money?
Franklyspeaking: It is interesting to know that 1.4 million Malaysians are corrupt, which is technically five percent of income-earning Malaysians or thereabouts.
And that would mean one in every five income-earning Malaysians is corrupt - that, my friend, is a high number.
Dollars and Sense: So according to Razali Ibrahim "only" about 1.4 million people are corrupt, so it is not that bad.
Maybe we need to wait for about 10 percent or so to be corrupt before we could arrest and charge the first five percent. Is it that we must make sure that at any one time, at least five percent are corrupt?
Changeagent: Five percent, that's a lot of crooks for a small country like ours. If that is not alarming, you must be crazy. Yet this silly deputy minister makes light of the matter.
You want a 100 percent corruption figure before you act? That would include the babies.
Truly Malaysian: If five percent of the corrupt are decision makers, this is bad enough.
For example, if a CEO of a corporation is corrupt, the whole company will collapse even though he makes up less than one percent of the total staff. We must have zero tolerance of corruption and five percent is way too high.
The new leaders brought in after the 13th GE do not seem to be better than the last. The circus is getting bigger by the day.
Interested Bystander: Razali must not have been counting the police.
Bumiasli: Simple logic will confirm that only five percent of Malaysians are involved in graft, meaning five percent of the rakyat only. But interestingly five percent of this group are likely to be in the top political bracket.
A corruption barometer reads what is fed into it only. What we need is a graft meter which can detect the billions in graft.
Tiger50: We must not forget that a substantial number of our population are babies and teenagers who are incapable of corruption. Therefore, we could well have close to two million corrupt people if the five percent excludes this group.
If this is not alarming, what is? We really have a dud deputy minister who, like his master, does not know maths and numbers. How sad.
Intheair: Graft is when a custodian abuses his authority for selfish gains at the expense of general stakeholders. In any society, only a very small group of people are entrusted to discharge authority for the general stakeholders.
By any standard, that five percent of the total population being involved in graft is very alarming.
2zzzxxx: If you want to lie, use a more convincing figure. Taking of bribes is now so common that the business community will tell you that nothing gets done if you don't bribe in Bolehland.
Oracle: The good deputy minister has either not read the Asia-Pacific Fraud Survey or is involved in the insidious practice of 'cherry-picking' information to obfuscate the real situation and mislead the people.
Corruption is a real menace in Malaysia that must be addressed. Burying his head in the sand is abdicating responsibility.
Ray9393: We, the rakyat, must have given all these pigeon's brain politicians the perception of how stupid, we are. What to do when we are the ones who had elected them in and they are given the power to treat us as donkeys?
Disgusted: A typical myopic comment from an Umnoputra. Some even go to the extent of saying there is no corruption in Malaysia, that it is all a perception.
Absalom: Quite impressive, this survey which managed to get the corrupt people to admit that they are corrupt. Or do they have a machine that beeps whenever a corrupt person is nearby?
I would also be worried about the 31% of people who believed the government is fighting corruption, whether they are on some sort of medication or ought to be.
I think if you were to catch the 10 biggest corrupt crooks in the country and confiscated their wealth, you would have enough to pay off our national public debt.
Geronimo: If you insist that 5 percent is the real number of Malaysians who are corrupt, then why is it that we don't see them in jail?
Lie2me: You meant these five percent of 28 million are causing havoc in Malaysia and the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) and police can't do a thing to sort it out?
Deputy minister: Only 5pct of M'sians involved in graft
Louis: Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Razali Ibrahim, you are another politician who knows not what you are talking.Malaysia has a population of around 28 million, so when you say five percent of the population is involved in corruption, it works out to be about 1.4 million people.
Assuming a modest sum of RM1,000 is paid per bribe, the total sum of money that goes into corruption is RM1.5 billion. If only the government can curb the scourge of corruption, that amount of money that could be saved and spare the poor people from paying more for petrol.
Gggg: That's correct, Razali Ibrahim. Only those five percent that you say are corrupt are in positions to demand bribes. That's the average percentage of top management, enforcers and politicians - taken together.
Legit: How do you arrive at this percentage, Mr Deputy Minister? Is corruption legal in Malaysia or otherwise? Do you keep a record of those people who are corrupt? Is it an official figure or just plucked from the air?
Government ministers have to be careful in giving out these numbers. Unless they can substantiate them with facts, they are no different from the man in the street - just talking without substance.
Bersih 4.0 Malaysian: Only five percent Malaysians involved in corruption? That works out to 1.4 million Malaysians, implying all government servants are corrupt and the balance goes to Umno.
Perception or no perception, please explain how a certain ‘unemployed' Umno-linked individual can own a house costing more than RM7 million?
Please explain what action has been taken on a former PM for the billions he allegedly has and also Sarawak CM Taib Mahmud, who has equally that amount of money?
Franklyspeaking: It is interesting to know that 1.4 million Malaysians are corrupt, which is technically five percent of income-earning Malaysians or thereabouts.
And that would mean one in every five income-earning Malaysians is corrupt - that, my friend, is a high number.
Dollars and Sense: So according to Razali Ibrahim "only" about 1.4 million people are corrupt, so it is not that bad.
Maybe we need to wait for about 10 percent or so to be corrupt before we could arrest and charge the first five percent. Is it that we must make sure that at any one time, at least five percent are corrupt?
Changeagent: Five percent, that's a lot of crooks for a small country like ours. If that is not alarming, you must be crazy. Yet this silly deputy minister makes light of the matter.
You want a 100 percent corruption figure before you act? That would include the babies.
Truly Malaysian: If five percent of the corrupt are decision makers, this is bad enough.
For example, if a CEO of a corporation is corrupt, the whole company will collapse even though he makes up less than one percent of the total staff. We must have zero tolerance of corruption and five percent is way too high.
The new leaders brought in after the 13th GE do not seem to be better than the last. The circus is getting bigger by the day.
Interested Bystander: Razali must not have been counting the police.
Bumiasli: Simple logic will confirm that only five percent of Malaysians are involved in graft, meaning five percent of the rakyat only. But interestingly five percent of this group are likely to be in the top political bracket.
A corruption barometer reads what is fed into it only. What we need is a graft meter which can detect the billions in graft.
Tiger50: We must not forget that a substantial number of our population are babies and teenagers who are incapable of corruption. Therefore, we could well have close to two million corrupt people if the five percent excludes this group.
If this is not alarming, what is? We really have a dud deputy minister who, like his master, does not know maths and numbers. How sad.
Intheair: Graft is when a custodian abuses his authority for selfish gains at the expense of general stakeholders. In any society, only a very small group of people are entrusted to discharge authority for the general stakeholders.
By any standard, that five percent of the total population being involved in graft is very alarming.
2zzzxxx: If you want to lie, use a more convincing figure. Taking of bribes is now so common that the business community will tell you that nothing gets done if you don't bribe in Bolehland.
Oracle: The good deputy minister has either not read the Asia-Pacific Fraud Survey or is involved in the insidious practice of 'cherry-picking' information to obfuscate the real situation and mislead the people.
Corruption is a real menace in Malaysia that must be addressed. Burying his head in the sand is abdicating responsibility.
Ray9393: We, the rakyat, must have given all these pigeon's brain politicians the perception of how stupid, we are. What to do when we are the ones who had elected them in and they are given the power to treat us as donkeys?
Disgusted: A typical myopic comment from an Umnoputra. Some even go to the extent of saying there is no corruption in Malaysia, that it is all a perception.
Absalom: Quite impressive, this survey which managed to get the corrupt people to admit that they are corrupt. Or do they have a machine that beeps whenever a corrupt person is nearby?
I would also be worried about the 31% of people who believed the government is fighting corruption, whether they are on some sort of medication or ought to be.
I think if you were to catch the 10 biggest corrupt crooks in the country and confiscated their wealth, you would have enough to pay off our national public debt.
Geronimo: If you insist that 5 percent is the real number of Malaysians who are corrupt, then why is it that we don't see them in jail?
Lie2me: You meant these five percent of 28 million are causing havoc in Malaysia and the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) and police can't do a thing to sort it out?
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